{"id":29,"date":"2014-03-19T17:12:09","date_gmt":"2014-03-19T16:12:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/blogak\/antonio-casado-da-rocha\/?p=29"},"modified":"2014-03-19T17:12:09","modified_gmt":"2014-03-19T16:12:09","slug":"ikurrinaren-lekuak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/antonio-casado-da-rocha\/2014\/03\/19\/ikurrinaren-lekuak\/","title":{"rendered":"Ikurri\u00f1aren lekuak"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Zein da lehenengo bertsolerroan ikurri\u00f1a bat margotzen duen euskal poema? Galdera horri erantzuna eman genion <a title=\"Lizardiren baratza, Euskadi Irratian\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eitb.com\/eu\/irratia\/euskadi-irratia\/programak\/lizardiren-baratza\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lizardiren baratzean<\/a> Paisaiaren Poetikak izeneko <a title=\"Saio osoa mp3 formatuan\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eitb.com\/multimedia\/audios\/2014\/01\/28\/1294944\/20140128_12450511_0006500251_002_001_LB_2014_I_25.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lehenengo atalean<\/a>. Erabilitako gidoiak hemen jarriko ditut, Euskadi Irratian aireratu ahala; Jose Luis Padron eta I\u00f1igo Astiz-en laguntzari esker, hona testua.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--> Joan den udan telesail berezi bat ikusi nuen BBC katean: <em>A Poet\u2019s Guide to Britain<\/em>, \u201cPoeta baten Bretainia Handiko gida\u201d. Owen Sheers poeta galestarra da telesaileko aurkezle, eta hark hasieran esaten du: \u201cBadaude hitz egiten duten tokiak, \/ gure eta beren istorioak kontatzen dituztenak.\u201d Istorio horiek kontatzeko, atal bakoitzean paisaia bat aurkezten digu poema bat baliatuta, edo poema bat aurkezten digu paisaiaren bidez. Edonola ere, saio horiek ikusi ondoren, honako galdera hau etorri zitzaidan burura: zergatik ez dugu horrelakorik Euskal Herrian? Alegia, poeta baten Euskal Herriko gida bat. Azken finean, paisaiak badu bere garrantzia euskal poesia garaikidean; ez da adibiderik falta. Esaterako, Sarrionandiaren poema batean aipatzen den moduan, hemen batek baino gehiagok nahi izan du \u201cLekua besterik ez izan, hurrin deritzan aberrian.\u201d<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Poet&#039;s guide to Britain + Basque subtitles\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3VKCIOJsB8M?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Baina nondik abiatu? Hasteko, lekua edo paisaia gaitzat hartzen duen euskal poema bat aukeratzekotan, duela gutxi argitaratu den liburu bat hartuko nuke. Uste baitut literatura ez dela modu historikoan irakatsi behar, hau da, atzetik aurrera, baizik eta alderantziz, hau da, garaikidea den horretatik antzinakoraino. I\u00f1igo Astiz-en lehenengo liburua, <em>Baita hondakinak ere<\/em> izenekoa, 2012. urtekoa da; esate baterako, bere aurreneko poema aproposa iruditzen zait oso.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<a title=\"Poema\" href=\"http:\/\/www.susa-literatura.com\/cgi-bin\/liburuok.pl?lib=poes61\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Esperimentu geofagoa lorategian<\/a>\u201d, edo laborategian, deritzon poema horrek Seamus Heaney poetaren azken liburuko bertsolerro baten asmoa burutzen du: \u201cNi lekuan eta lekua nigan\u201d [<em>Me in place and the place in me<\/em>], adieraztea. Nola? Esperimentu bat proposatzen digu Astiz-ek: \u201cLur pixka bat hartu\u201d eta \u201charrixkak baztertuta ahoratu gero\u201d. Irakurri edo irentsi ahala, lurrarekin batera hitzak datozkigu: \u201cOdola, lurra, mendeak\u201d, \u201cmetatutako denborari buruz ari garelako\u201d. Ironiak ironia, ardura moduko bat ere badator, \u201cbeste herrialde eta mapa guztien aurka. \/ Baina dena ez da nekagarri. Une batez \/ atsegina ere bada geografia izate hau: \/ pertsona bezain leku sentitze hau.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Poema kate bat osatzeko asmoz, I\u00f1igo Astiz egileari berari eskatu diot euskal paisaiaren inguruko poema garaikide bat izendatu dezala, beste poeta batek egindakoa, eta zergatik zaion garrantzitsua azaltzea. Joseba Sarrionandiaren \u201cMartin Larralde\u201d aukeratu du I\u00f1igok, eta hauxe da bere argudioa: <span style=\"color: #0000ff\">\u2018Paseatu egiten zaitu poemak deskribatzen duen paisaia horretan. Sartu egiten zaitu lehen lerrotik giroan. Baina ez da soilik paisaia geografikoa erakusten duena. Martin Larralderekin Sarrionandiak euskal literaturaren historiaren paisaian ere paseatzen zaitu eta paseatzen zaitu ere bere deserriko esperientzian eta bukaeran lehertzen du dena irudi ezin ederrago horrekin. \u201cZerua \/ itsaso zikin bat dela esanez.\u201d Edonork aipatuko luke poema hori ziur eta beraz nola ez nik ere aipatu?\u2019<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Egia, I\u00f1igo, ezin poema hori aipatu gabe utzi, eta eskerrik asko. Beraz, dagoeneko bi dira ditugun poemak: I\u00f1igo Astizerena, berri samarra, eta Sarrionandiaren \u201c<a title=\"Poema\" href=\"http:\/\/1aguna.blogspot.com.es\/2014\/01\/ezberdintasunak-bilatu.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Martin Larralde<\/a>\u201d, Ruper Ordorikari esker totem kulturala bihurtu zaigun klasikoa. Ez da gutxiagorako, ordea. Poema bikaina baita, lehen bertsolerroko ikurri\u00f1atik hasi (\u201cLarre berdeak, etxe zuri teila gorriak\u201d), eta I\u00f1igo Astizek azpimarratu duen bukaeraraino. Euskal paisaiakoak diren osagai franko biltzen ditu: polizia, eliza, kebideak, arkumeak, trikuak (nahiz eta poemaren lehenengo bertsioan arrosa izan \u201carantzak barrurantza itzuliak\u201d zituena), autopistako seinaleak, kartzela, zerua eta itsasoa. Azken horrekin, itsasoarekin hain zuzen, jarraipena emango diogu gure gidari, otsaileko atal eta paisaia berrian.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Zein da lehenengo bertsolerroan ikurri\u00f1a bat margotzen duen euskal poema? Galdera horri erantzuna eman genion Lizardiren baratzean Paisaiaren Poetikak izeneko lehenengo atalean. Erabilitako gidoiak hemen jarriko ditut, Euskadi Irratian aireratu ahala; Jose Luis Padron eta I\u00f1igo Astiz-en laguntzari esker, hona testua.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":52,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,25],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-paisaiak","category-poetikak"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ikurri\u00f1aren lekuak - High alaitasuna<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/antonio-casado-da-rocha\/2014\/03\/19\/ikurrinaren-lekuak\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ikurri\u00f1aren lekuak - High alaitasuna\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Zein da lehenengo bertsolerroan ikurri\u00f1a bat margotzen duen euskal poema? 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