{"id":2277,"date":"2012-06-20T21:02:57","date_gmt":"2012-06-20T19:02:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/boligrafo-gorria\/?p=2277"},"modified":"2012-06-20T21:02:57","modified_gmt":"2012-06-20T19:02:57","slug":"saguesko-kontzertuak-eta-argumentum-ad-populumak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/boligrafo-gorria\/2012\/06\/20\/saguesko-kontzertuak-eta-argumentum-ad-populumak\/","title":{"rendered":"Saguesko kontzertuak eta argumentum ad populumak"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><figure id=\"attachment_2279\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2279\" style=\"width: 281px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/boligrafo-gorria\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2012\/06\/jendetza.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2279\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/boligrafo-gorria\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2012\/06\/jendetza-300x222.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"281\" height=\"208\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2279\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Milaka lagunek ezin dute musikari buruzko iritzi okerra eduki... edo bai?<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\nGaldetzen badidate Donostiako Aste Nagusian Saguesen <a title=\"Donostia Kulturaren webgunera lotura leiho berri batean zabalduko da\" href=\"http:\/\/www.donostiakultura.com\/index.php?option=com_flexicontent&amp;view=items&amp;cid=82&amp;id=10864&amp;Itemid=319&amp;lang=eu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">joko duten taldeak<\/a> zer iruditzen zaizkidan, erantzungo dut ez nagoela kartelarekin bereziki ilusionatuta. Batzuk askotan ikusi ditudalako azkenaldian (Zea Mays) eta beste askoren kontzertuetara joan ez banaiz, ez delako aukera faltagatik izan, ekonomialarien hizkera erabiltzeko \u201cinteres defizitak\u201d eraginda baizik. Anai Arrebak taldeak bakarrik deitu dit arreta.<br \/>\n<!--more-->Hori bai, donostiarrismo ofizialaren bozeramaileren baten <a title=\"Ramon Gomez Ugalderen Twitterrera lotura leiho berri batean zabalduko da\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rgomezugalde\/status\/215099885505085440\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">erreakzioa<\/a> ikusita, ezin irribarretxo bat ezkutatu. Ematen du Bildu Udalera iritsi aurretik Saguesko kontzertuak txaleta mila duroan baino hobeak zirela. La Oreja de Van Gogh, Nena Daconte, Pignoise, Rosario Flores edo Sonia y Selena (!) daude aurreko urteetako zerrenda beltz\u2026 arros\u2026 tira, berdin dio. Eta ez naiz sartuko esplikatzera zergatik niretzat horiek ere ez diren batere interesgarriak, oraindik ez da asmatu onomatopeiak transkribatzeko software egokirik.<br \/>\nJende kopurua aipatzen dute batzuek aurreko Aste Nagusietako kontzertuen defentsan eta oraingo kartelak ere jende pilaketaren aldeko apustua egin du. Diferentzia da \u201ceuskal\u201d jendea erakarriko duela, azken finean, Ken Zazpi edo Esne Beltza euskaraz ari direnen artean gehien tiratzen duten taldeetako bi dira \u2013saihestu egingo dugu &#8220;tira&#8221; daukaten taldeak deskribatzeko asko erabiltzen den anglizismo bat idaztea, Xabier Mendiguren <a title=\"Xabier Mendigurenen Twitterrera lotura leiho berri batean zabalduko da\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/xme64\/statuses\/173472807072710656\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">eskopeta hartuta<\/a> ikusteari beldur handiegia diogulako\u2013.<br \/>\nProblema beraz, zera da:<em> argumentum ad populum<\/em>a izan dela Odonismoan eta dela orain ere kontzertuak antolatzeko irizpidea.<br \/>\nAlternatibarik? Zergatik ez Saguesen beste mota bateko kontzertuen aldeko apustua egin? Nik zer dakit, eszenatoki gehiago jarri, txikiagoak izan arren; Jazzaldian egiten den moduan bertako talde ez hain ezagunei aukerak eman; batez ere, irizpide musikala jarri jendea mobilizatzeko gaitasunaren aurretik \u2013milaka jende mugitzen ditu gerrak ere eta ez dugu NATO eredu bihurtuko!\u2013.<br \/>\nDuela hilabete batzuk <a title=\"ARGIA aldizkarira lotura leiho berean zabalduko da\" href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/argia-astekaria\/2311\/donostia-2016\">idatzitakoa<\/a> pegatu beharko hemen berriz ere: \u201cNekez justifika daiteke ezkerretik, politika kultural publikoek jada arrakastatsua denaren aldeko apustua egitea. Jarrera hori alderdi kontserbadoreena izan beharko litzateke \u2013eta gaur egun ez da haiena bakarrik\u2013\u201c.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Galdetzen badidate Donostiako Aste Nagusian Saguesen joko duten taldeak zer iruditzen zaizkidan, erantzungo dut ez nagoela kartelarekin bereziki ilusionatuta. Batzuk askotan ikusi ditudalako azkenaldian (Zea Mays) eta beste askoren kontzertuetara joan ez banaiz, ez delako aukera faltagatik izan, ekonomialarien hizkera [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[301,647,1570,1571,1592,2289],"class_list":["post-2277","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-musika","tag-aste-nagusia","tag-donostiako-udala","tag-kontzertu-eredua","tag-kontzertuak","tag-kultur-politika","tag-sagues"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Saguesko kontzertuak eta argumentum ad populumak - Boligrafo gorria<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/boligrafo-gorria\/2012\/06\/20\/saguesko-kontzertuak-eta-argumentum-ad-populumak\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Saguesko kontzertuak eta argumentum ad populumak - Boligrafo gorria\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Galdetzen badidate Donostiako Aste Nagusian Saguesen joko duten taldeak zer iruditzen zaizkidan, erantzungo dut ez nagoela kartelarekin bereziki ilusionatuta. 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