{"id":3362,"date":"2013-03-14T12:35:10","date_gmt":"2013-03-14T12:35:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/blogak\/mikel-asurmendi\/?p=3362"},"modified":"2013-03-14T12:35:10","modified_gmt":"2013-03-14T12:35:10","slug":"jesus-egiguren-eta-arnado-otegi-oscar-rodriguezen-berbetan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/2013\/03\/14\/jesus-egiguren-eta-arnado-otegi-oscar-rodriguezen-berbetan\/","title":{"rendered":"Jesus Egiguren eta Arnado Otegi, Oscar Rodr\u00edguezen berbetan"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_3364\" style=\"width: 212px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2013\/03\/MG_48421.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3364\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3364\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2013\/03\/MG_48421-202x300.jpg\" alt=\"Txirrinduzalea da Oscar Rodr\u00edguez, Dani Blancoren argazkian ageri denez\" width=\"202\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3364\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Txirrinduzalea da Oscar Rodr\u00edguez, Dani Blancoren argazkian ageri denez<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/argia-astekaria\/2361\/oscar-rodriguez-vaz\" href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/argia-astekaria\/2361\/oscar-rodriguez-vaz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Oscar Rodr\u00edguezekin<\/a> egindako elkarrizketaren hainbat galdera\/erantzun dituzu hauek, bake prozesua eta bizikidetasuna hizpide.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zer inpresio duzu egungo egoeraz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ez daukat inpresio txarrik, Twitterren eta WatsAppean \u201c<em>Vivo feliz desde el 20 O<\/em>\u201d idatzita daukat. Hau da, duela bi urteko urriaren 20tik, ETAk behin betiko desagertuko zela adierazi zuenetik.<\/p>\n<p>Hilabete politak izan dira, iraganeko horren egoera latzak ez ditugu ezagutu, ez dira errepikatuko. Sufrimendua ez da desagertuko horregatik egun batetik bestera. Biktima asko dago herri honetan, ETAk eginak batez ere, baina badaude bestetzuk ere.<\/p>\n<p>Lehenik eta behin, Jesus Egigureni nire gorazarrea agertu nahi diot. Bizi dugun bake egoera, hein batean, berari zor diogulako. Noski, pauso gehiago eman behar dugu guztiok, baina memoriari uko egin gabe, denon ardura da, nork bere ardura hartu behar du.<\/p>\n<p>Eta gauza bat zehaztu nahi dut: garrantzitsua ez da Jesus Egiguren zer den niretzat edo alderdiarentzat, baizik gizartearentzat. Jesusek oniritzia jaso du gizartearengandik.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Egigurenek baina, bere alderdian galtzaile ematen du.<\/strong><br \/>\nAlderdian ez da erraza aritzea: batzuek irabazten dute eta beste batzuek galdu egiten dute. Guk, adibidez, alderdiko berritzaileok galdu dugu Arabako kongresuan. Egigurenek gizartearen errekonozimendua izan badauka, nik irabazle ikusten dut. Egoeraren zati handia berari zor zaio.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ezker abertzalearekin harremanetan segitzeko prest?<\/strong><br \/>\nBai. Baina, bake prozesuan Egigurenek Otegirekin izan zituen harremanen ondoren, horiek, eta horregatik soilik, ez dira nahiko akordioak ezker abertzalearekin egiteko. Ezker abertzalearekin oraindik ezin ditugu akordio estrategikoak egin. Esparru asko dago akordioetara iristeko, lan esparruan badaude berarekin akordioetara iristea, baina ezker abertzalearekin akordio estrukturalak lortzeko denbora beharko du PSEk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bestalde, presoen gaian bestela jokatu daiteke?<\/strong> <strong>Esparruak esparru,<\/strong> <strong>neurriak neurri, Arnaldo Otegiren kasuan, eta<\/strong> <strong>Bateragune kasuan orobat, adibidez?<br \/>\n<\/strong>Bi gauza: bat, presoei buruz, orokorrean gizatasun gehiago behar dugu. Espetxe politika ez dela bide horretan garatzen ari, esan nahi dut. Uneon, Madrilgo Gobernuan dagoen PPk eman beharko lituzke pausoak.<br \/>\nBi, Arnaldo Otegiren egoerari buruz PPko kide batek esan zidana: \u201cOtegi kartzelan denbora luzaz egonez gero, ateratzerakoan gure Mandela zuria izango da\u201d. PPko kide horrek alderdiari eskatu zion eta eskatzen dio, zintzotasunez edota inteligentzia gehiagoz jokatzea.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>Izan ARGIAko bazkide: <a title=\"Argiako harpidetza egiteko lekura lotura leiho berean\" href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/harpidetza\">astekariko harpidedun<\/a> edo <a title=\"Piztu Ezazu Argiara lotura leiho berean\" href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/piztu-ezazu-argia\/\">argia.eusen laguntzaile<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Oscar Rodr\u00edguezekin egindako elkarrizketaren hainbat galdera\/erantzun dituzu hauek, bake prozesua eta bizikidetasuna hizpide. Zer inpresio duzu egungo egoeraz? Ez daukat inpresio txarrik, Twitterren eta WatsAppean \u201cVivo feliz desde el 20 O\u201d idatzita daukat. Hau da, duela bi urteko urriaren 20tik, ETAk behin betiko desagertuko zela adierazi zuenetik. Hilabete politak izan dira, iraganeko horren egoera latzak [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":44,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[332,977,1044],"class_list":["post-3362","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cpolitika","tag-egiguren","tag-otegi","tag-rodriguez"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Jesus Egiguren eta Arnado Otegi, Oscar Rodr\u00edguezen berbetan - Katebegia<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/2013\/03\/14\/jesus-egiguren-eta-arnado-otegi-oscar-rodriguezen-berbetan\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Jesus Egiguren eta Arnado Otegi, Oscar Rodr\u00edguezen berbetan - Katebegia\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Oscar Rodr\u00edguezekin egindako elkarrizketaren hainbat galdera\/erantzun dituzu hauek, bake prozesua eta bizikidetasuna hizpide. 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