{"id":4686,"date":"2014-06-27T08:56:42","date_gmt":"2014-06-27T08:56:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/blogak\/mikel-asurmendi\/?p=4686"},"modified":"2014-06-27T08:56:42","modified_gmt":"2014-06-27T08:56:42","slug":"oi-lur-oi-lur-ai-izakaria","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/2014\/06\/27\/oi-lur-oi-lur-ai-izakaria\/","title":{"rendered":"Oi lur, oi lur, ai izakaria!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4687\" style=\"width: 213px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2014\/06\/MG_3477.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4687\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4687\" alt=\"Jon Suduperekiko estimuan. Arg: Dani Blanco\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/44\/2014\/06\/MG_3477-203x300.jpg\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4687\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jon Sudupe. Arg.: Dani Blanco<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Xabier Lizardiren<\/b> <i>Oi lur oi lur <\/i>poema gogoan, jarri omen zion izena saioari <a title=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jon_Sudupe\" href=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jon_Sudupe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jon Sudupe<\/a>k.<a title=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/argia-astekaria\/2421\/jon-sudupe\" href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/argia-astekaria\/2421\/jon-sudupe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Oi Europa! <\/i><\/a>saioaren izenburuak etsipen puntua adierazten du. <a title=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas\" href=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">J\u00fcrgen Habermas<\/a>en \u00a0<i>Ai, Europa<\/i> liburuaren izenarekin bat egiten du, nolabait. <i>Ai <\/i>eta <i>Oi<\/i> hitzek ondoeza adierazten dute, baina miresmena ere bai. Sudupe pentsalariak bat egiten du Habermas pentsalariarekin.<br \/>\nSaiogileak aitortu digunez, nekatuta dago, hedabideetan eta tertulietan nazioaren eta independentziaren inguruan zabaltzen diren eztabaidekin. Bere ustez, sezesioa ez da bidea, ezta Euskal Estatua lortzea ere: \u201cBaina nirea ez da politikan sartzea, edo iritzi politikoak ematea\u201d, \u00a0gehitu du.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jes%C3%BAs_Eguiguren\" href=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jes%C3%BAs_Eguiguren\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><b>Jesus Egiguren<\/b><\/a> politikaria eta Jon Sudupe, biak ala biak <a title=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Argien_Garaia\" href=\"http:\/\/eu.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Argien_Garaia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ilustrazioaren<\/a> zaleak dira. Egigurenen <i>Euskal Herria, por un nuevo nacionalismo, vasquismo y navarrismo<\/i> publikatu berriaz galdeturik, hauxe esan digu: \u201cEz dut liburua irakurri. Pentsatzen dut azken artikuluen eta lanen ildoan doala. <b>Foruzale liberal batzuk erdi nazionalistak izan dira<\/b>. Oro har, ez dakit Egigurenek zer esan nahi duen, ez dut argi ikusten adierazi nahi duena. Ni ez naiz nazionalista, Espainia federala Europa federalean ikusten dut, soluziorik logikoena, arrazionalena horixe da. Europako Estatu federala, gaurko estatuek, herri-nazioek eta eskualdeek osatua, euren kultura eta berezitasun propioekin osatua. Hori da irtenbidea\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><b>Erlijioaren aroa<\/b> <b>joan badoanez<\/b> \u2013omen, diot nik\u2013, Sudupek behin-behinekotzat jotzen du \u201cerlijiotik etikara bidea egitea eta argitzea\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Hortxe omen dago eztabaida. Charles Darwin funtsezkoa da egun berriz ere, \u201ceboluzionismoa ulertzeko eta haren alde egiteko arrazoi sendoak daude: biologia eta askatasuna dikotomiak osagarriak dira. Darwinen determinismo biologikoa eta genetikoa, eta gizabanakoaren autonomia eta norberaren askatasuna uztargarriak eta beharrezkoak dira. Egungo debatea neurozientzia eta determinismoaren ildoan garatzen ari da\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><b>Eztabaidak eztabaida<\/b>, kazetari hau egindako hainbat galderen erantzunik gabe etxeratu zen. Liberalismoa dela, sozialismoa dela, komunismoa dela, kontserbadorismoa dela, anarkismoa dela, zientziaren eta filosofiaren hamaika adarrak tarte direla, pentsalari \u201cberriek\u201d pertsonok basotik gatozela gogorarazi nahi digute berriz ere.<\/p>\n<p><b>Hara,<\/b> pentsamenduz kamuts, hitzez huts, eta ekintzez ahul naizen honek, nor izateko ez dela aski pentsamendua, ez dela aski hitza, ezta ekintza soila ere, pentsu du. Sena ere badugula, nonbait. Ez dugula arboletatik eroritako animaliak garela ahaztu behar. Batasuna bilatzen dugun basatasun izakariak garela \u201cahaztu dugula\u201d gogorarazi nahi baitigute nonbait. Alabaina, jendeok harmonian ez, armonian hazitako izakariak gara, hara. Eta orain, gure buruarekin nahastuak, jatorria ahaztuak edota gure izatea disimulatu nahian hirian ezkutatuak &#8220;bixi&#8221; garela.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hEcchK80-JA\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hEcchK80-JA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>Oi lur oi lur!<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0<\/i> <i>Ai izakariak!<\/i> Hau mundu arranoa! Mundu piztia! Mundu arraroa! Hirikoa alegia!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Xabier Lizardiren Oi lur oi lur poema gogoan, jarri omen zion izena saioari Jon Sudupek.Oi Europa! saioaren izenburuak etsipen puntua adierazten du. J\u00fcrgen Habermasen \u00a0Ai, Europa liburuaren izenarekin bat egiten du, nolabait. Ai eta Oi hitzek ondoeza adierazten dute, baina miresmena ere bai. Sudupe pentsalariak bat egiten du Habermas pentsalariarekin. Saiogileak aitortu digunez, nekatuta dago, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":44,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15,20,30],"tags":[706,949],"class_list":["post-4686","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-erlijioa","category-historia","category-zientzia-eta-teknologia","tag-jon-sudupe","tag-oi-europa"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Oi lur, oi lur, ai izakaria! - Katebegia<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/mikel-asurmendi\/2014\/06\/27\/oi-lur-oi-lur-ai-izakaria\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Oi lur, oi lur, ai izakaria! - Katebegia\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Xabier Lizardiren Oi lur oi lur poema gogoan, jarri omen zion izena saioari Jon Sudupek.Oi Europa! saioaren izenburuak etsipen puntua adierazten du. 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