{"id":1091,"date":"2011-06-24T13:30:41","date_gmt":"2011-06-24T11:30:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/argia.eus\/erredakzio-mahaia\/unai-brea\/?p=1091"},"modified":"2011-06-24T13:30:41","modified_gmt":"2011-06-24T11:30:41","slug":"pedro-prieto-konbertsoaren-irribarrea","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/2011\/06\/24\/pedro-prieto-konbertsoaren-irribarrea\/","title":{"rendered":"Pedro Prieto, konbertsoaren irribarrea"},"content":{"rendered":"<p lang=\"eu\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1119\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_5411.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1119\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1119\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_5411-300x261.jpg\" alt=\"Pedro Prieto (Arg.: Dani Blanco)\" width=\"300\" height=\"261\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_5411-300x261.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_5411.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1119\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pedro Prieto (Arg.: Dani Blanco)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Metakazetaritza dosi txiki bat eskainiko dizuet. Pedro Prietori <a title=\"&quot;Ez gara itzuliko krisi honen aurreko egoerara&quot;, elkarrizketara lotura leiho berean\" href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/argia-astekaria\/2279\/pedro-prieto\">elkarrizketa<\/a> egin genion, eta gero, paperera eramateko orduan, arazo bat sortu zitzaigun: tipoak esaten dituenak esaten ditu, eta ia argazki guztietan ageri da irribarretsu. Zelan demontre ezkondu, pentsatu genuen, poztasun irudi hori eta honelako esaldiak: &#8220;Ez gara krisi honen aurreko egoerara itzuliko&#8221;, &#8220;gure bizi-maila %90 jaitsi beharko dugu&#8221;, &#8220;desazkundea dator, eta horrekin batera kolapsoak&#8221;, &#8220;ez dago sistema honi eusterik&#8221;, &#8220;jabetzen hasi behar dugu dauzkagun mugez&#8221;&#8230;<!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"mceTemp\">\n<div id=\"attachment_1122\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_53962.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1122\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1122\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_53962.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"450\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_53962.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/MG_53962-300x180.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1122\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"> <\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mceTemp\">Gizon jatorra da Prieto, oso atsegina. Barnean duen kezkak ez dio izaera ozpindu, ez eta irribarrea ezabatu ere bistan denez, baina kezkatuta dago haatik. Elkarrizketaren ostean, Donostiako kaleetan gindoazela nor bere zereginetara, horretaz aritu ginen solasean.<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p lang=\"eu\">\u2013 Aizu, lur jota utzi nau esan duzunak \u2013bota nion. Nire alaben etorkizunaz pentsatzen ari nintzen, batez ere.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"eu\">\u2013 Halaxe daramat nik hogei urte \u2013erantzun zidan berak.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p lang=\"eu\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p lang=\"eu\">Oso deigarri egin zitzaidan elkarrizketa (ofizial)eko pasarte bat, espazio faltagatik argitaratu ez genuena. Halako batean, zera esan zidan Prietok:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1100\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/p18f1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1100\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1100\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/p18f1-300x225.jpg\" alt=\" \" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/p18f1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/p18f1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/62\/2011\/06\/p18f1.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1100\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"> <\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p>\u2013 Uste dut dagoeneko 100 unibertsitate inguru dagoela Espainian, ez dakit denak beharrezkoak diren. Zertarako? Ingeniariak, arkitektoak, ekonomialariak, enpresa-zientzietan lizentziatuak&#8230; isurtzen segitzeko? Jende hori autobideak, abiadura handiko trenak eta abar egiten jarraitzeko hezten dute, honek ez dauka ez hanka ez bururik. Urtero %3 hazteak, Zapatero jaunak proposatzen duen moduan, esan nahi du 25 urtero ondasun eta zerbitzuen ekoizpena bikoiztu behar dela. Eta hamasei aldiz biderkatu, ehun urtero. Zer nahi dugu mende bat barrurako, zein da eredua (ordurako energia geratuko zaigula suposatuz)? Gaur egun baino hamasei aldiz autobide gehiago edukitzea? Hamasei aldiz taberna gehiago? Hamasei aldiz aulki, botila, metro&#8230; gehiago? Ez naiz gai hori irudikatzeko. Izan ere, uste dut ezin dugula gehiago hazi.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"eu\">\u2013 Aipatu dituzun lanbideen artean zurea dagoenez gero, barkatuko didazu gordin galdetzea: konbertsoa zara?<\/p>\n<p lang=\"eu\">\u2013 Konbertsoa, eta iraganaz damutua.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p lang=\"eu\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p lang=\"eu\">Prieto ez da militante ekologista, edo ez ohikoa behintzat. Haren curriculumean ez dira ageri &#8220;nuklearren kontrako borrokan eskarmentu handia&#8221; bezalako esaldiak. Hamarkada asko eman zituen &#8220;indarraren alde ilunean&#8221;, eta azken hogei urteetan bera noizbait pieza izandako sistema horren zentzugabekeriaz ohartarazi nahi gaitu.<\/p>\n<p>Ia ordu eta erdiz jardun genuen, eta horren erdia ere ez da argitaratu. Askoz gutxiago azken egunotan sarean jarri dugun <a href=\"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/multimedia\/bideoa\/pedro-prieto-ez-gara-itzuliko-krisiaren-aurreko-egoerara\">bideoan<\/a>. Norbaitek gogoa badu Prietoren mezua sakonago ezagutzeko, <a title=\"Crisisenergetica webgunera lotuta leiho berri batean\" href=\"http:\/\/www.crisisenergetica.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.crisisenergetica.org<\/a> webgunea arakatzeaz gain, madrildarrak 2009an idatzitako <a title=\"&quot;Colapso energ\u00e9tico y financiero&quot; artikulura lotura leiho berri batean\" href=\"http:\/\/www.decrecimiento.info\/2011\/03\/colapso-energetico-y-financiero.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">analisi mardul hau<\/a> (gaztelaniaz dago) irakur dezake. Hein handi batean horretan oinarritu nintzen elkarrizketa prestatzeko, beraz gauza dezente dago errepikatuta. Baina beste batzuk ez, eta hitz ematen dizuet oso interesgarriak direla, aldi baterako gorputzaldi txarra uzten dizuten gauzentzat &#8220;interesgarri&#8221; adjektiboak balio baldin badu. Irakurri ondoren, argitzeke geratuko zaigun misterioa da zelan eusten dion Pedro Prietok bere irribarreari.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"eu\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Metakazetaritza dosi txiki bat eskainiko dizuet. Pedro Prietori elkarrizketa egin genion, eta gero, paperera eramateko orduan, arazo bat sortu zitzaigun: tipoak esaten dituenak esaten ditu, eta ia argazki guztietan ageri da irribarretsu. Zelan demontre ezkondu, pentsatu genuen, poztasun irudi hori eta honelako esaldiak: &#8220;Ez gara krisi honen aurreko egoerara itzuliko&#8221;, &#8220;gure bizi-maila %90 jaitsi [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":63,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[162,175,230,348,454,583,586],"class_list":["post-1091","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-energia","tag-crisisenergetica","tag-desazkundea","tag-energia-2","tag-hazkundea","tag-krisia","tag-peak-oil","tag-pedro-prieto"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Pedro Prieto, konbertsoaren irribarrea - Mundua ez da biribila<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/unai-brea\/2011\/06\/24\/pedro-prieto-konbertsoaren-irribarrea\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Pedro Prieto, konbertsoaren irribarrea - Mundua ez da biribila\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"&nbsp; Metakazetaritza dosi txiki bat eskainiko dizuet. 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