{"id":451,"date":"2011-11-16T17:11:38","date_gmt":"2011-11-16T15:11:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/argia.eus\/erredakzio-mahaia\/urko-apaolaza\/?p=451"},"modified":"2011-11-16T17:11:38","modified_gmt":"2011-11-16T15:11:38","slug":"fikziozko-telesailek-ez-gaitzatela-engaina","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/2011\/11\/16\/fikziozko-telesailek-ez-gaitzatela-engaina\/","title":{"rendered":"Fikziozko telesailek ez gaitzatela engaina"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_452\" style=\"width: 260px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-3.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-452\" class=\"size-full wp-image-452\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"140\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-452\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Epaiketan azalpen zehatzak eman ditu Gurutzek<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Gurutz Agirresarobe <a title=\"Albistea Hernaniko Kronikan\" href=\"http:\/\/www.kronika.net\/index.php?Sec=01&amp;Cod=28487&amp;Act=07\">epaitzen ari dira egunotan<\/a> Auzitegi Nazionalean, ETAren aginduz\u00a0 Joseba Pagazaurtundua hiltzea egozten diote eta 48 urteko kartzela zigorra eskatzen du fiskalak. Urte askoan izan ginen errugbiko taldekide, eta ziur nago berak dionean <a title=\"Albistea El Pais-eko hemerotekan\" href=\"http:\/\/www.elpais.com\/articulo\/espana\/ETA\/asesina\/jefe\/policia\/Andoain\/elpepiesp\/20030209elpepinac_1\/Tes\">2003ko otsailaren 8ko goiz hartan<\/a> ez zela Andoaingo Daytona tabernan egon, egia esaten duela.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Duela urte pasatxo atxilotu zutenean ere oso arraroa izan zen; urte horietan guztietan bizitza normala egiten? 2009an ETAko hainbat kide atxilotzean hasi omen zituen Ertzaintzak Gurutzen inguruko peskizak, hori dio Grande-Marlaska epaileak <a title=\"2010eko abuztuaren 6ko autoa\" href=\"http:\/\/www.scribd.com\/doc\/35512447\/Auto-juez-Marlaska-encarcelamiento-Aguirresarobe\">auzipetze autoan<\/a>, errugbi talde berean jokatzen zutela ere aipatzen du gainera. Nik ere jokatzen nuen errugbian haiekin, eta zer? Baina balizko hipotesi hori aintzat hartuz gero, zergatik ez zuen Gurutzek ihes egin ustez bere burua arriskuan balego? Usteek, omenek eta balizkoek pozoituta dago dena.<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Bideoa Gurutzen deklarazioekin\" href=\"http:\/\/videos.lne.es\/nacional\/20111114\/aguirresarobe-niega-haber-pertenecido-eta-27611.shtml\">&#8220;Ez dut inoiz nire bizitzan erlaziorik izan ETArekin\u201d<\/a> esan zuen Gurutzek auzitegian. Sekula armarik ez duela eskuetan izan ere esan zuen, ez dela inoiz Daytonan egon, eta areago, ez duela bizitzan bi aldiz baino kaferik hartu. Denei erantzun die, Pagazaurtunduaren familiari, biktimen elkarteari, fiskalari\u2026 Horrek ez du koadratzen ETAko kideek epaitegietan hartu izan duten jarrerarekin, eta ez diot nik, <a title=\"&quot;Algo realmente excepcional en las causas de asesinato terrorista&quot; dio El Mundok\" href=\"http:\/\/barbagris-tedax.blogspot.com\/2011\/11\/era-una-formula-de-acoso-integral-veces.html\"><em>El Mundo<\/em>k<\/a> baizik.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_454\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/daytona1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-454\" class=\"size-full wp-image-454\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/daytona1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"238\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-454\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Daytona tabernan ez dela inoiz izan esan du Gurutzek<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Akusazioaren froga bakarra Daytonako kikara batetik hartutako DNA mostra bat da. Baina fikziozko telesailek ez gaitzatela engaina, DNA zehaztea <em>maul <\/em>batean zigor-kolpea ikustea bezain \u201cerraza\u201d izan liteke askotan. Ertzainek berek onartu dute mostra oso txikia dela (duela lau urte, DNArik ere ez zutela <a title=\"El Diario Vascon Oscar B. de Otaloraren artikulua baieztapen hori egiten\" href=\"http:\/\/www.diariovasco.com\/pg060208\/prensa\/noticias\/Politica\/200602\/08\/DVA-POL-283.html\">zabaldu zen<\/a>) eta peritu genetista batek ere zalantzan jarri du haren kalitatea. DNA froga batean oso kontuan izan behar da mostra genetikoa hartu zeneko baldintzak, egin zaion zainketa, balorazioa eta abar (<a title=\"UCLMko Marina Gasc\u00f3n-en artikulua\" href=\"http:\/\/www.uv.es\/CEFD\/15\/gascon.pdf\">artikulu honetan<\/a>, argibide gehiago). Izan ere, kikara hori kutsatua edo manipulatua balego, zer? Lekukoek diote ezetz, baina horien hitzak Gurutzenak bezainbeste balio du. Zein berme daukagu DNAren inguruko zainketa prozesu osoa \u2013gogora dezagun zazpi urte igaro direla\u2013 ongi egin ote den? <a title=\"Albistea Reuters agentzian\" href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2008\/08\/07\/us-crime-idUSN0728479020080807\">Australian 7.000 kasu errebisatu zituzten<\/a> DNArekin zalantzak sortu zirelako.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_455\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-5.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-455\" class=\"size-full wp-image-455\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-5.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-455\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">ADN lorratz batzuen irudia<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cErrugabe bat kartzelan sartuko duzue\u201d, esan du Gurutzek. Beldur naiz ez ote den presio politikoen eta ondorioak neurtu gabeko operazio baten biktima izan. Testuingurua ere ez baita nolanahikoa. 2010ean Estatua eta indar polizialak, ETA garaitua izaten ari zenaren kontakizuna eraikitzen ari ziren. ETAko auskalo zenbat ustezko buruzagi atxilotu zituzten oso denbora gutxian. Zentzu horretan, Gurutz Agirresaroberen eta Aitziber Ezkerraren atxiloketak oso garrantzitsutzat <a title=\"Aresen deklarazioak EITBren webgunean\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eitb.com\/eu\/albisteak\/politika\/osoa\/477947\/ares-zantzu-guztien-arabera-agirresarobek-hil-zuen-pagazaurtundua\/\">jo zituen Rodolfo Aresek<\/a>, <em>zelula loti<\/em> bat desartikulatu zutelakoan, eta ikerketa \u201cbere osotasunean\u201d Ertzaintzak egin zuela nabarmendu zuen. Egun batzuk geroago baina, Ezkerra libre utzi zuten, komisarian tratu<a title=\"Albistea Berria egunkarian\" href=\"http:\/\/paperekoa.berria.info\/harian\/2010-08-08\/006\/009\/tratu_txarrak_jaso_dituztela_salatu_dute_agirresarobek_eta_ezkerrak.htm\"> txarrak jasan ondoren<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_456\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-6.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-3\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-456\" class=\"size-full wp-image-456\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-456\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Agirresarobe eta Ezkerraren inkomunikazio egoera salatzeko agerraldia Hernaniko udaletxean<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_457\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-7.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-4\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-457\" class=\"size-full wp-image-457\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2011\/11\/Sin-t\u00edtulo-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"173\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-457\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Atxilotuak askatzeko egindako manifestazioa 2010eko abuztuan<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Ertzaintzaren DNA bankuan kointzidentzia batekin egin zuten topo, arrasto genetiko ahul batetik eratorria. Atxilotu, eta gero gerokoak. Baina gero ez dute ezer aurkitu: ez da frogatu Gurutzek ETAko kideekin harremanik izan zuenik \u2013Rodolfo Aresek baieztatu moduan\u2013, ez dakigu zer pasatu den Gimenez Abad ere hiltzeko erabili zen pistolarekin, lekukoek ez dute Gurutz errekonozitzen, ez dago inongo dokumentaziorik, sikiera autoinkulpaziorik\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Ezin liteke sinetsi froga bakar batean oinarritzen diren prozesuetan, gutxiago militantzia politikoak epaitzen diren herri honetan. Ulertzekoa da Joseba Pagazaurtunduaren senideen samina, errudunari hilketa ordainarazteko beharra. Baina ez dakit probabilitate batean oinarritutako zigor-sententzia batek lasaituko lukeen samin hori.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gurutz Agirresarobe epaitzen ari dira egunotan Auzitegi Nazionalean, ETAren aginduz\u00a0 Joseba Pagazaurtundua hiltzea egozten diote eta 48 urteko kartzela zigorra eskatzen du fiskalak. Urte askoan izan ginen errugbiko taldekide, eta ziur nago berak dionean 2003ko otsailaren 8ko goiz hartan ez zela Andoaingo Daytona tabernan egon, egia esaten duela.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":19,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[59,139,253,344,385,812],"class_list":["post-451","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politika","tag-agirresarobe","tag-auzitegi-nazionala","tag-dna","tag-eta","tag-ezkerra","tag-pagazaurtundua"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Fikziozko telesailek ez gaitzatela engaina - Angelu itsua<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/urko-apaolaza\/2011\/11\/16\/fikziozko-telesailek-ez-gaitzatela-engaina\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Fikziozko telesailek ez gaitzatela engaina - Angelu itsua\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Gurutz Agirresarobe epaitzen ari dira egunotan Auzitegi Nazionalean, ETAren aginduz\u00a0 Joseba Pagazaurtundua hiltzea egozten diote eta 48 urteko kartzela zigorra eskatzen du fiskalak. 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