{"id":1452,"date":"2013-11-18T01:00:59","date_gmt":"2013-11-18T01:00:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.argia.eus\/blogak\/xabier-letona\/?p=1452"},"modified":"2013-11-18T01:00:59","modified_gmt":"2013-11-18T01:00:59","slug":"katalunia-badoa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/xabier-letona\/2013\/11\/18\/katalunia-badoa\/","title":{"rendered":"Katalunia badoa"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1454\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/xabier-letona\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2013\/11\/Senyera-erraldia-Geroa-Bai.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1454\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1454\" title=\"\" alt=\"Geroa Baiko Gazteek irailaren 11n Via Catalanan egindako argazkia\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/xabier-letona\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2013\/11\/Senyera-erraldia-Geroa-Bai-300x225.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1454\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Geroa Baiko Gazteek irailaren 11n Via Catalanan egindako argazkia<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Eta LARRUN badator. Ohi moduan, aste honetako ARGIArekin banatuko da eta azarokoan \u00a0Kataluniako prozesu independentista jorratu dugu. Salvador Card\u00fas eta Josep Ramoneda jarri ditugu aurrez aurrez. Lehena erabat independentista betidanik eta bestea PSCren ideologoetakoa, baina alderditik\u00a0 urrundua eta erabaki eskubidearen aldekoa erabat; LARRUN honetan ez, baina batzuetan adierazi izan du seguruenik independentziaren alde egingo lukeela.<\/p>\n<p><i>El Temps<\/i>-eko kazetari ohi Enric Rimbauk analisi sakona egiten du eta argi esaten digu: Estatutuaren iruzurra badago eta horrek etsipen handia ekarri zuen, bada egungo egoera ulertzeko klabeetakoa, baina ez bakarra. Trantsizio luzean Pujolismoak eta eskuin katalanak egin zutela ahalegina Katalunia Espainian eroso kokatzeko, baina ez zutela lortu eta horrek beste bide batzuetara eraman duela Kataluniako zentro-eskuinaren sektore handi bat. Eta hirugarren klabea, krisia, jakina.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Eta orain zer? Bi gauzarekin saiatuko dira independentziaren aurkakoak: bat, galdera ahalik eta lausoena bilatzen, eta horretan ari dira Uni\u00f3, PSC eta besteren batzuk ere bai. Bi, Espainiaren estrategia: arazoa atzeratzea \u2013ea ekonomia hobetu eta independentismoa makaltzen den\u2013 eta edozelako erreferendum edo kontsulta debekatzea.<\/p>\n<p>Eta datozen asteak giltzarri izango dira, Artur Mas lehendakariak galdera iragarriko du. Nolakoa? Ba dira hipotesi batzuk LARRUN honetan, baina luze joko luke hemen laburtzea. Hori bai, ondorietako bat apurketarena da. Apurtu zer? Edo CiU-ERC gobernu akordioa edo CiU koalizioa.<\/p>\n<p>Esther Vivas eta Alberto Lopez Basagurenen iritziak ere topatuko ditu irakurleak. Katalunian azken lauzpabost urteetan eman den aktibismo sozial indartsuaren ordezkarietakoa da Vivas. Orain, independentzia eta orden sozial berri bat lotu nahi duen Prozesu Konstituziogilea eratzen ari dira. \u201cIbili daiteke argi ICV bere zalantzekin, CUP eta Proc\u00e9s hor ditu eta\u201d, utzi du erortzen norbaitek LARRUNen.<\/p>\n<p>Alberto L\u00f3pez Basaguren EHUko katedratikoak legearen mezua ekarri die katalan independentistei: erabaki eskubideak ez du esistitzen eta ezin duzue prozesu hau zuen kabuz egin, Espainiako legediaren gainetik, izatekotan hori aldatu behar da lehenik; eta ohartarazpena PPri ere, Kanadako Auzitegi Gorenaren oihartzun ospetsuak baliatuta: baina Katalunian sentipen independentista oso argia bada, horri ezin zaio ezikusiarena egin, kontuan hartu behar da eta negoziatu.<\/p>\n<p>Negoziatu zer? Zer egingo du Masek? Zer Duran i LLeidak? Apurtuko al da PSC? Estatutua desegingo du PPk? Erantzunak inork ez dakizki, baina erantzunetara jotzeko makuluak badira, adibidez LARRUN honetan.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1457\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/xabier-letona\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2013\/11\/larrun-181-promoa1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1457\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1457\" alt=\"Katalunia badoa.\" src=\"https:\/\/blogak.argia.eus\/xabier-letona\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2013\/11\/larrun-181-promoa1-769x1024.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"799\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1457\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Katalunia badoa.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>(Oharra: LARRUN 182. zenbakia ARGIAren 2392 zenbakiarekin banatuko da aste honetan eta harpidedunen etxeetara iritsi eta egun batzuk beranduago sarean ere izango da irakurgai).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eta LARRUN badator. Ohi moduan, aste honetako ARGIArekin banatuko da eta azarokoan \u00a0Kataluniako prozesu independentista jorratu dugu. Salvador Card\u00fas eta Josep Ramoneda jarri ditugu aurrez aurrez. Lehena erabat independentista betidanik eta bestea PSCren ideologoetakoa, baina alderditik\u00a0 urrundua eta erabaki eskubidearen aldekoa erabat; LARRUN honetan ez, baina batzuetan adierazi izan du seguruenik independentziaren alde egingo lukeela. 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